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    Default New Building Materials

    Have there been any new building materials or new building methods birthed out of this slow economy?
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    Default New materials

    I don't know that you can give the economy credit for this...

    Materials that I am seeing becoming more popular in self storage include insulated panels for climate controlled buildings and a new condensation liner which can be used in place of rolled out insulation in non-climate control buildings. It's applied to the back of the standing seam panels when as they are formed, so it eliminates the step of installing traditional insulation.

    The insulated panels are foam with a steel skin. We've also made some design changes to allow for thicker insualtion and higher r-values in our climate controlled buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_hajewski View Post
    ...applied to the back of the standing seam panels when as they are formed, so it eliminates the step of installing traditional insulation.

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    So Steve, what if any options are available for those of us with the rolled out insulation in the ceilings? We patch spots with white duct tape, but now after 12 years, the plastic sheet is breaking down and becoming chalky so the tape does not stick.

    Other than new rolls and trying to patch it in, or putting some sort of material up to hold the sagging torn areas in place, do you have any suggestions?

    There is another thread where this topic was touched upon, and people were looking for suppliers for the replacement insulation as well. Is it any different from what we may be able to purchase from the local home supply stores as long as we can find a white plastic outer layer?

    Thanks in advance for your input.
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    Default Insulation repairs

    Those kind of problems are exactly what the new liner product will hopefully prevent. Unfortunately it is very difficult to stick it onto the panels by hand, especially to an existing building (I have personally tried, and made a mess of it), and as it is relatively new to the US it might be hard to get your hands on a roll of it.

    Here's a link to more info on the product: http://www.condenstop.com/index.php/.../products.html

    Regarding the fix for the existing damaged insulation, sorry I don't know of any easy fix. One of my co-workers suggested that you might try applying a vapor barrier to the underside of the purlins to conceal/support it, using fender washers and self drilling screws on the purlin bottoms. But you'll likely get the same end result again in a few years.

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    Thanks Steve, I was hoping you had THE solution being in the building trade. I'll take a look at that website for future use though.
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    If my project goes forward we are planning to use a material that's referred to as SIP (structurely insulated panel's). You can google SIP for more info but here are some advantages for using it. 1/3 the labor cost of typical construction, R value is excellent with big savings on heating and cooling cost, and it's a earth friendly material. Greensburg, KS is using this material to rebuild. The cost of the material more but it's offset by less labor cost to erect.

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    Has anyone used the Spray Foam Insulation for walls and ceiling vs. the batt insulation? If so, how does it work?

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    Default Re: New Building Materials

    I've seen some insulation paint but really question the r values.

    I also heard of a building (not self storage) being built below grade and in record time using shotcrete and reinforcements as they dug down two floors. Instead of digging and then building they built on the way down and then shot above grade two floors. Building was done in record time and in turn less expensive as everything was more efficient ... I'll see if I can find some details on it.

 

 
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