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  • Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it :(

    In a previous thread I started, I talked about tenants being upset that we won't take partial payments anymore. Well delinquent tenants being upset. We have two particular delinquent tenants that haven't paid in full in almost 2 years! We've been taking partial payments from them. They both were talking about financial issues they were having so we cut them a break. Unfortunately, it's gotten very tiresome so I had to put my foot down. They don't always pay consistently or pay they amount they said they were going to. Then they call me the day after the deadline to either place their unit in lien, or on the auction list, to make a payment. After talking to the property manager, we decided to see about doing a payment settlement with one tenant. She owes $500 right now and is struggling financially. I called and left her a message to see if the payment settlement might be something she would like to do. She would need to pay an agreed upon amount and then vacant her unit. As long as it's fully empty, we'll right the balance off. We've done this before and people have jumped on it with the quickness.

    Now the other delinquent tenant, who we'll call Nora, is a completely different story. The property manager remembers her from another storage facility that she rented from. She was severely delinquent there too but she can't remember how they resolved it. Nora only wants to pay $80 a month, which is her rental rate. I've repeatedly told her that she'll have to start making larger payments. She says she will and goes on and on about this movie and record deal she and her husband are doing. And how the large check is coming but it's hung up and they're still waiting. I'm personally tired of her long winded stories and excuses. The suggested amount I recommend she start paying is $160 a month, two months of back rent. She currently owes over $1700 in back rent. Nora claims she'll make larger payments but then doesn't do it. Last week we had an arrangement for her to pay $900 and then $200 a month after that. She said that big check was coming. Then low and behold she calls and says she's coming down to pay $80. The check hasn't come yet. According to her

    So a very long story short, I've really had it with Nora. I'm thinking about sending her an official letter to let her know that after February, we're not going to accept anything less than two months of back rent as payment. I've suggested a payment settlement and move out, but she swears she has the money coming and will pay everything off at once. But I really see no choice but to stop taking the $80 payments. Hopefully she'll get it and realize that she has to step it up and resolve this issue. Nora's very lucky they didn't do auctions before I came on the scene. Otherwise her stuff would've been gone a LONG time ago...to a galaxy far far away LOL! Rant over!
    Last edited by Bella_Lindemann; 22 January 2016, 05:42 PM.

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    Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

    Just tell her that she either agrees to your settlement offer or the 2 months payment or you will sell her unit, period! The tenants here were so used to the other managers crediting late fees that it took me 3 months to get the point across. Lost some tenants. When I took over they were in the neighborhood of 150-160 vacancies a month. As of close yesterday I am at 6 vacancies and for the last 8 months average about 15-20 vacancies at the month end close. Nora will try to "run the asylum." Don't let her.
    Last edited by Storman; 22 January 2016, 06:15 PM. Reason: Violation of site rule #6

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    • #3
      Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

      I wouldn't have taken the next $80 payment after the first time I spoke with her! You either pay what we agreed to, or everything due. And that agreement is signed by both parties, or no partial payment will be accepted. Period.

      I have one making $300/month payments for his $179/month rental. He wanted to pay $180 monthly. I said nope. That just gets you further and further behind each month with no hope of ever catching up. Meanwhile, the fees keep accruing. You either agree to a payment plan that gets you caught up, or we sell you at the next auction. There is no middle ground.

      This month he missed his payment because he failed to re-file some annual disability forms and they reduced his income until he takes care of it. This week I found out he's done nothing yet, so I had to tell him to get up off his lazy rear and take care of it, because I'm not going to wait for a payment and they won't just magically start paying more without him doing his part! Yes, those were the words I used!!!

      I told him I have an auction 1/27 (I do, but he wasn't in the ad, so I can't sell him) and he needs to get me that $300 before then or all bets are off.

      If he hasn't paid by his next due date of 2/5, then I'm done. But even so, I will have made much more than if I had just sold him when I made the agreement, so it's a big win for us anyway!
      MamaDuke

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        Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

        Got my hand slapped. LOL! I will wear it like a badge of honor! Remember what I said about being PC!

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        • #5
          Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

          What we did is a blanket "No more partial payments." If you want to pay all of the rent due, we'll waive all late fees but you have to move EVERYTHING out that same day.

          Or, don't pay the whole amount due and go to auction. That's it. The whole enchilada. It's made our lives SO MUCH BETTER. SERIOUSLY.
          An apple a day keeps ANYONE away if you throw it hard enough.

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          • #6
            Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

            screw that-- put the unit up for auction asap! obviously they couldn't care less about keeping their word, otherwise they would've agreed to and kept their end of the payment agreement. I'd tell them they have to pay the WHOLE balance before the auction day, otherwise someone else is gonna own all their stuff. we're dealing with people at this property that were used to the old manager waiving fees, not scheduling for auction and doing partial payments pretty much whenever the customer asked for it -- we've told people that we're the new managers, the rules that have been ignored WILL be enforced and they have 2 options; pay and stay or go to auction and lose your stuff. I already know I'm gonna have issued with one customer who was used to making late/partial payments at the last minute to avoid going to auction and she's gonna learn real quick that those games are over. I don't make any less if they vacate, so it doesn't bother me if they move out-- hell I can re-rent the space and make $10 on that plus commission on any merchandise I sell them!

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            • #7
              Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

              Do you have it written in to your contract that a partial payment doesn't stop the lien sale process? If not, add it!

              We have given way to much leeway to our inmates... whoops, customers... and they know it. We haven't gone to no partial payments yet but we are inching our way there. We just switched to having them sign a payment agreement form when we accept a partial payment. It specifically states that if the payment arrangements aren't kept- with no reminder calls, no additional letters on our part- the lien sale process will continue without further notice. We have customers who haven't been caught up in the entire year I've been here and it needs to end. We are all adults here and we all have bills to pay. Yes, you should be scared that I will sell your unit because we aren't really friends and this is a business.

              Step 1 was moving the process from around 4-5 months delinquent sold to 2.5 months being sold. Step 2 begins with February's delinquencies being sold in just under 2 months. Get it together, folks.

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                Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                Originally posted by pacnwstorage
                Got my hand slapped. LOL! I will wear it like a badge of honor! Remember what I said about being PC!
                I hope you don't think I slapped your hand? I was just telling my story!
                MamaDuke

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                • #9
                  Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                  Originally posted by MamaDuke
                  I hope you don't think I slapped your hand? I was just telling my story!
                  No, MamaDuke, I got my hand slapped by a moderator for what I said. You did nothing wrong. It was a phrase I used getting MY point across.

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                  • #10
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                    I will tell you, I broke the rule recently (with permission) for a Vietnam Vet who has been a long term tenant here. I took half and he assured me that he would keep up with his payments. Yeah, okay.

                    Here we are almost two months out and nothing-no contact whatsoever. So now I have to restart the auction process (CA rules) and if he comes in again, dispassionately tell him, "Too bad. All or nothing."
                    An apple a day keeps ANYONE away if you throw it hard enough.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                      Even us Vietnam Vets cannot keep a promise at times but must be held to the same rules and policies as the other tenants. We have been thru boot camp and been under fire and watched people's backs and followed orders all thru all of that. We know better and if we have something come up that keeps us from meeting a deadline or keeping a promise, then we should man/woman up and contact the facility to let them know what is happening. When anyone will not return my calls to them or alternate contacts, respond to texts or respond to emails then they get absolutely no leniency from me, even a vet. As adults we all need to quit with the entitlement era and excuses.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                        Thanks everyone for your advice and input. I apologize for responding so late. I've been having severe neck problems due to stress so I have to periodically lie down.

                        I think I have a good idea of how to handle Nora. Which is not accept those $80 payments. It's time to get caught up or shipped out. Someone on here once said "you can't care more about their items and possessions than they do". I think if they really cared they would make more of an effort to get caught up and keep contact. Not continuously make up excuses or "stories". I know it sounds like I'm complaining, and someone might tell me to grow up or find another job. But sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and say enough is enough. There's an entire city in Michigan being subjected to situation they had no control over. Drinking or bathing in polluted and poisonous water because the state cared more about budget cuts than keeping their citizens safe and healthy. But I have people who want to blame everyone and their mamas for why they can't pay their $25 or $80 a month rent

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                        • #13
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                          Bella, if all of us that complained on here and vented on here were told to find other jobs and we did, they would lose 1/2 this forum! LOL! If you can't vent here then something is wrong. Keep it up. Stick to your guns. Nora has to pay or go!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                            I agree, Nora needs to go. We've been too compassionate here the past few years and now we are finally weaning the last of the manipulators out. No more partial payments. I know that sounds awful but after 6+ years in this biz, I've learned to stop being so daggone gullible. Self storage is a privilege, not a right. It isn't like you're taking their home or their car from them and they will be homeless or won't be able to make it to their chemo appointments. It's storage, stuff, things that are replaceable. Sometimes you have to get tough and say "NO". "Give them an inch and they will take a mile". It's easy, just pronounce her name NO-ra and see if she takes the hint. LOL!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Delinquent tenant that just doesn't get it

                              You know what we sometimes do, I work for a company that owns 9 properties.
                              When I get a tenant who is behind and is used to telling me pretty much whatever they want to..I listen and I do give each and everyone 1 chance to disappoint me.
                              When I can not convince my tenant that it is all or nothing, I get another manager, from within my company to call said tenant and she will give them the "this is the district manager" speech!!
                              We play good cop/bad cop.
                              That way the manager will always be the good guy!
                              Don't put off until tomorrow, what you can do today.

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